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Time ago I saw a sign on a parking place reserved for disables: “if you want my parking, take also my disability!”. Good idea to place some of them also in the subway
People really should stand up when someone who needs the seat more than they do gets on the train. But New Yorkers are space cadets and are used to being in their own world when surround by crowds of people. You should ask them to move their seat, and if they get grumpy, just politely point out that you are entitled to the seat. I doubt most would argue.
Also, the MTA and NYPD do such a poor job of policing the subways. Just like the “Do not lean on door” and “do not walk between train cars” signs, people ignore the “priority seating” signs. Why? Because nobody does anything about it. If I were on the train, I would offer my seat to someone who needed it, even if I wasn’t in “priority seating.” I would also defend someone who asserted their right to the priority seating.
Ask if you can have the seat. Then if they say no, you can get all righteous and indignant and call them any names you want. People barely pay attention in this city. It’s the only way you can navigate the huge crowds without having your brain explode. But a little more courtesy and attention to those in need would go a long way…then again, many New Yorkers (and people in general) would step over a body on the street before they would stop to see if the person needs help. We should all take some responsibility and set an example, instead of bitching and moaning.
I have to take the bus sometimes to get around and it is usually always packed and everytime I am forced to stand. One time the bus was so full standing was such a pain in the ass cause I kept getting stepped on and getting bumped into. This elderly lady came onto the bus a few stops after I did and I felt so bad because no one would give up their seat! A middle aged woman who was sitting started getting loud saying “no one can get up to let this woman sit!” everyone on the bus turned to look and one lady who was standing in front of me started yelling back to the woman “Well if it makes you that mad you should give her your seat and stfu” well long story short no one gave up their seat.
I don’t see why there should be someone from MIA or NYPD pointing out that one person with a disability should be able to have a seat reserved on public transport cars. What about respect for people? What about just behave as a human being?
I’ve been to New York and on the subway exactly once. I gave up my seat to an elderly lady who found no end to her amusement as I was obviously an out-of-towner enjoying my “grand adventure”.
If you’d been there that day I’d have let you sit down too. I understand that you’re irritated by their actions but do you ever ask them for the seat? Adding their responses to the pics would greatly increase the value of your posts.
It is very sad to note that kindness is not an option anymore. I take the bus, and people rarely stand up to let elderly, pregant women or even children sit. It makes me so angry because it shows that we are so full of ourselves and so caught up in our little world that we are not capable anymore of an act of politeness. Very sad indeed.
Also in italy…tutto il mondo è paese.
This site is akin to a visual whining session. It’s not at all insightful. Also, need I point out that those seats are for everyone, but ask that they be surrendered for someone with a disability; not that they shouldn’t be used by those without! Those in the photos are likely not thinking about looking out for others with handicaps; nor should they!
Parenthetically, I’ve read too many articles about shop owners required to rip out their $20,000 renovation so the ramp could be built to spec for wheelchairs, etc. to have much sympathy for institutionalized disability accounting. While I think it’s nice to cater to folks who need a little extra care, legislating it is simply a bad – and impossible notion.
I have an idea for those who could use the seat: ask nicely. It may not always work, but I would guarantee it would work with most indignant NYers most of the time…
This web site is pretty silly and offensive (if I were ever inclined to think of it again – which I am not)
I just read in the NY TImes that you feel ‘uncomfortable’ asking people for their seat. At the same time you’re completely comfortable talking shit on the Internet.
The article made it seem like you’re a grown man. But I get a sense that your real disability isn’t some ‘mysterious’ foot injury. It’s that your pussy is fully of sand. If you want to stand up for yourself do it on the train to someone’s face, not when you’ve gotten home to have an appletini with your friends.
There are plenty of people who do fucked up shit on the subway, and I’d love to see those assholes mocked on the internet. If someone won’t give up their seat after you ask that’s one thing. Until you ask, though, you’re the one who’s not being polite! Bitch!
Why should an adult give up a seat for a child? I understand if it is an infant, but otherwise are the kids really in need of a seat?
And before you had your crutches- you were probably just like them- solidly staring into your book or paper, or listening to you music, or pretending to sleep. Perhaps there were times when you were dead-tired, or felt sick, and felt justified, but how many times did you just not want to deal. Or didn’t even notice. Now compare that to how many times you checked out some pretty girl. And then compare that to how many times you helped someone with a stroller or a cart who clearly needed help up the subway steps. Perhaps you are beginning to get my point
Step 1: Board train
Step 2: Notice that the priority seats are all filled.
Step 3: Grow a pair
Step 4: Walk up to said seat fillers and simply ask for a seat.
Step 5: Sit down in seat, place crutches to the side and find comfort that today you decided to act like a grown man instead of whining and taking pictures like a small child.
I find that absurd.
‘ve Been there when I was pregnant.
People pretend they are asleep and do not give a place for those who need.
I guess you just turned 5 today? As everyone else stated… stop acting like a child. You shouldn’t expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter just because you have crutches. If you want something, you ask for it politely. You can’t just take take take all the time. You need to GIVE and take. Give the person (who probably really did not notice you… i get lost in my book on the subway as well and do NOT intentionally do it) an opportunity to offer his/her seat to you. And for all you know, they might have just gotten off a 12+ hour laborious shift at work and are TIRED as hell working to pay a part of YOUR disability while you stroll around the city all day taking silly pictures!
I am dumbfounded by most of the comments posted above. How many of you give up your seats to pregnant women, women/men struggling with children, elderly, disabled, etc??
Let’s just hope that none of you ever suffer from a temporary or permanent disability. I am almost certain you would be the first to change your mind and start taking pictures of people that did not get up for you.
Start practicing honesty, you ALL see these people and work hard to pretend that you don’t.
For all the pregnant women out there. A woman will always be the first to offer their seat and if the train is crowded stick your belly in their seated face. Nothing makes them more uncomfortable!!!!
I just read the article in the New York times-you are from East Williamsburg so you probably ride the L line. People on that line are rude at best. I ride that line at least twice a day for over 2 years and I’ve only seen someone get up once when a rider was so sick he was basically on the floor. I also use the A line a lot and people there are a lot nicer. you don’t have to sit in the priority seating section, it’s courtesy if someone else needs the sit for whatever reason, just get up and let them have it.
I’m loving reading some of the NY Times readers’ sanctimonious rants. Trustifarians with selfish rants abound!
And before you stand there and get all prat in my arse I’ll let you know that I’m disabled and I pay for my medical coverage. Out of pocket and taxed to give you your bloody bonuses and bailouts. And if you get all upset about ‘paying for his disability’ I look forward to the day when you need the help.
And you come up with a name like “Wow”? How very fuckin’ clever, you entitled prick.
LIFE IS A JUNGLE.
They do not see you.
They do not see any sign on the wall.
They do not try to guess what you may need,
or what you may want.
They do not know you, they do not care.
It is not that they are total assholes, or selfish.
It is just the way life is :
If you want something, ask for it and take it, but do not expect people to do it for you.
Whether you are disabled or not.
Sorry I had to tell you this.
Oh, NY Times readers, you ridiculous fools alternately amuse me and horrify me. Please–and I don’t actually mean “please”, but something in the vein of “are you shitting me?”–this isn’t a cry for help or a moan/bitch/whine session: it’s just a view of idiots on a bus. It’s amusing, my diminutive friends. Don’t take it as a self-righteous rant.
I mean, just look at yourselves.
Just to give a little perspective: as rude as they might be (and they are), French people do not even question letting their seat to anyone who needs it more, especially in the Paris metro. I don’t even understand why there should be a discussion about it: the person for whom it is easier to stand, should stand and leave their seats, whether to handicaped persons, temporarily injured, elder, pregnant, or with child. This is a matter of basic politeness.
Time was when EVERY seat was a priority seat for the disabled.
EVERYONE was expected to give up their seat for women children and the disabled.
Now it is societies fault for not policing, not posting the sign in multiple languages or in pictographs.
Part of the changes toward a better society??
Good luck with your struggles in the new utopia.
I’m partially sighted. I have a white cane. If I’m sitting in the priority seats I keep my eyes the hell open. If I see someone who looks like they need the seat more than me (crutches, pensioners, pregnant ladies, pensioners on crutches etc.) I let them have the seat.
If I can spot people who need the priority seats, those people with good sight damn well can too.
Yeah, you get lost in a book, your music, whatever. Yeah, that’s just selfish and ignorant. You sit in the priotity seat, you keep an eye out for people who need it more than you. That’s just common courtesy.
I’ve dealt with plenty of ignorant assholes in Glasgow but NY takes the cake – some of you are even trying to defend yourselves!
Now don’t get me wrong – I wouldn’t ask someone to get up for ME. Not unless I wanted to risk a complete stranger chewing my face off. Because that’s what generally happens; they’re ignorant enough to take the priority seats and not pay attention, they’re assholes when someone asks them to move.
What breaks my heart is when I’m on a crowded bus or train and a little old lady tries to give me her seat. All the able-bodied people just stare as if they’re wondering whether I’ll do a trick.
One last bloody thing – guy comparing a 12+ hour day at work to having a disability? Fuck right off you ignorant bastard. 12+ hour shift compared to a possibly lifelong disability? Yeah, right. Do you tell people in wheelchairs that they’re just being lazy, too?
There is an even more radical approach to this issue that those of us with disabilities face daily in innumerable ways.
The presumption in the design of this train flawed. It is designed to exclude – and then some quota of “other people” are backfilled into the design with “special” seating.
The correct presumption is inclusion (Universal Design.) The correct question is it ever permissible to allow any seat *not* to be accessible?
An artificial system of limited resources has been designed causing squabbles about courtesy far from those authorizing the underlying injustice.
Really, you should ask for a seat.
It would be interesting to post here their answers along with a picture of theirs.
I applaud you for you public Hall of Shame! I am in agreement with Johannes. Try a,”Do you mind giving your seat to me?” and watch the response.
It will help if you have someone else to “video” the whole process. You may just start something new like “It’s OK for people like me to request for a seat” Campaign! I am in 100% support because you can’t control others’ actions, but you can control what you say.
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