How the hell would you know whether or not people have a dissability.
I do.
I can hardly stand.
I present well ,try not to appear the victim.
I think you are way off track mate.
The author MAKES the disclaimer on the page that many disabilities are not visible. The negative reaction of so many “maketh me think thou doth protest TOO much” as in: guilty as charged and defensive about it. Perhaps the same folks who take the only handicapped bathroom stall because it’s so much roomier. Duh…it’s made to accommodate wheel chairs–and folks whose bladders can’t accommodate the able-bodied dawdlers who could use another stall. Then there are those who don’t even NOTICE the folks in stores on electric carts who spend much of their shopping trip trying to avoid injuring them because they are so self-involved.
Either you are new in New York City or you dont have anything but to take pictures of people in the Subway.
No body reads those signs, they dont mean anything when there are more people standing in any NYC subway. But of course, you already would have known that if you had lived here for over 6 months.
I would NOT give my seat to a person on crutches talking my picture in a subway (I might punch him!!!) if you can take pictures on Crutches, you can STAND!!!!
people are too busy with their stupid junk to care about another person. Look at all those billboards around them telling them what to think. Do you think they really have enough brain power to make the connection that you have crutches and what they are sitting on is marked reserved. I never look down at the seat in the subway. I didn’t even know they had reserved seats. Try carrying around a double bass on a subway.
That’s a double edge sword. My husband is legally blind. He looks normal but his vision is beyond bad. However you’d never know by looking at him that he needs a seat close to a door to avoid stepping on, hitting or kicking people or running over kids.
Hah! I hear your pain. I am so glad I didn’t have to deal with public transit when I was on crutches for 8 weeks. I went to the grocery store a few times and people would cut me off or hit my crutches with their shopping trolleys. I guess they saw me as a possible delay of two seconds while they raced to the crisps so they had better race to cut me off rather than be delayed. I even had people crash into my cast during their enthusiastic attempts. When I used to ride the bus I would always give up my seat to old people, pregnant women, people with crutches or casts - even people with an armful of groceries or little children would appreciate being able to sit.
Sorry, but rude is assuming that you know what’s going on with other people’s health. I wouldn’t give you a seat either just because you are a negative SOB. I’ll bet you can walk without that crutch.
all of you inconsiderate a@%holes who known darn well the seats they are occupanying handicap seating know that they see the damn signs posted & I think they should get a ticket. being a stroke survivor with disabilities would hope that if I had to sit, rest assured I would verbally say something & raise hell if they don’t move. there’s a reason why specific seating is designated for the handicapped cuz the aholes like the folk saying they wouldn’t give up a seat for the disabled person, shame on you!
People ARE inconsiderate and careless these days, and consumed in their own self-importance. I had crutches for just 3 months and I was surprised how little people cared to put out a wee bit of extra effort to just make my life 1% easier. I had one idiot step on my foot which was broken and in a splint at the time. Like, are you kidding me? I am RIGHT here. Anyhow. Neat blog, I like the concept. My dad has mild muscular dystrophy and you can’t tell from just looking at him stand.. but I hope able bodies start getting off their lazy butts and standing instead of taking those seats.
I was raised in the south where some form of manners and civility still remains. I’ve lived in the City (81st/1st) since 06. People here are extremely rude and inconsiderate, as “MS” points out; most get used to living with so many rude people and so it becomes the norm, the culture. Everyone knows the seats are reserved for those who need it, unfortunately because people are so inconsiderate, which is why the rules must be made in the first place, these rules are not followed because no one is there making people follow them. The other people on the train are just as guilty for not pointing out this indiscretion. Isn’t that right, if harm befalls someone else but does not affect you, you don’t care, right? That’s the response I get all the time. What happens when there is no one left to defend you? What happens when no one cares? You can all go to Hell, I am going [back] to Texas.
I have a stroller with cable breaks and a cushioned seat YEAH! Seriously, if you aren’t on crutches, use a cane, stroller, assistance dog, whatever; GET OFF THE HANDICAP SEATS! JERKS!
I live outside the States.
While I was in university we studied that in the States people care less to each other in the big cities. In Europe you would find much attention to this matter and ignoting signs would cause one to pay penalties.
The research I recall from sociology classes was the case when a woman was raped and murdered and cried for help and people kept walking.No one called 911!
I guess you’ve better move to Minesota. I’ve heard it is a great place to live in.
I wish you all the best with your health.
It is a shame for your country that people care only for themselves.
I love the comment about how you haven’t lived in the city long enough. So, if you live in a city long enough you are entitled to be an asshole with no manners at all?
I’d think that if you had to be crammed into that cesspool filled with people you’d try to be MORE courteous to one another instead of less.
Never trust anyone who brags about being a New Yorker. Anyone that lives in a shithole like that and is proud of it, just needs to be erased.
Hey, June, you’re an idiot. I’ve been all over Europe. Now I live in New York and, if anything, people in this city are far more considerate than anywhere else I’ve been. You should try and get your money back on that hack class you took.
Some people are just oblivious.
Sweet blog though. Haha. Got a real kick out of it.
That’s funny - I tore a ligament in my knee in December, and had to walk with a cane for weeks. Every time I got on a train or bus, someone offered me their seat, although I usually didn’t take it.
Incidentally, I never took photographs of unsuspecting commuters either.
Also, I’d like to say to Flogger that, as someone who grew up in New York, I can assure you that most of the people who “brag” about being a “New Yorker” moved here from someplace else, and are usually tremendously bigger assholes than the homegrown variety.
I find this extremely pretentious… if you want a seat, you should ask for one. By taking pictures of the people, you’re just proving that you’re a douche who cares more about making other people look bad than getting a seat. Before moving to a city in upstate NY to go to college, I took the subway every day for nearly 4 or 5 years. And let me tell you, if I’m sitting in one of those seats, I’m usually tired as hell and probably asleep, or not paying attention because I’m totally out of it. A majority of people who take the subway during peak times are like that - either they’re going to work at 7am or getting back from work. If you want them to notice, say something, or at least give some sign that you need a seat. Just standing there and taking pictures of them isn’t going to do you any good. If anything, it’ll make it less likely for them to give up their seats for you. If you’re capable of being a total ass, you’re capable of standing.
Well, it’s a shame you have to ask, but an erring-on-the-side-of-too-polite “Excuse me…” usually works. At least then you’ll know who’s a first-class ass.
I was on the train last weekend and a fellow, sitting, clipping his fingernails, didn’t even look up after one of his clippings shot up and hit me in the cheek. I just sighed and took solace that at least he wasn’t dropping trow and taking a dump.
On a more uplifting note, I also saw a little girl force her father to give up his seat to an incredibly elderly woman with a cane. The girl was like “Daaa-aad! Aren’t you gonna get up?” He rolled his eyes, but obliged.
The fact that people are so defensive and stubborn about a common courtesy is ridiculous. It’s not about the people who use the seats because they need them. It’s about the assholes who have no disabilities and lack concern for anyone but themselves. I mean I have a back condition and I move the moment someone who appears to struggle more than myself steps on public transportation. It’s just the right thing to do so stop being lazy bastards before karma breaks your bones and teaches you the lesson of being a decent human being.
while alot of the pictures posted are MOST LIKELY non handicapped persons, lets not forget those of us with INVISIBLE DISABILITIES.
i have ms. i look fine. i dont use any assitance devices. but there are times where i have such overwhelming fatigue i can barely think. there are also times my muscles are so weak i can barely walk. BUT TO SEE ME SITTING SOMEWHERE I WOULD LOOK NORMAL.
DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER AND ASSUME EVERYONE IS AN ASSHOLE.
i personally would give up a seat to someone who obviously needs it more than me.
but then again…. i dont use public transportation.
I was on crutches in 2003 for about 3 weeks. People were absolutely awful to me - the first day I had them, some woman actually kicked my broken foot while I was getting a prescription filled. When I screamed, she took off running.
As the days wore on, more and more people would cut me off on the sidewalk or bump into me. I went to a baseball game and they reluctantly allowed me to use the elevator (which required walking through some fancy section of the stadium.) There were a handful of people who were actually nice to me - but it was rare.
Great idea. But having been on crutches and in a moon boot much like yours up until a few weeks ago, word of advice #1 is take the bus. If you can get down the subway stairs and stand around on the platform, you kinda can stand, but why would you want to risk getting knocked over and breaking something else?
But in my experience, the world was divided into two kinds of people — those who had been in a cast and on crutches in their lives and immediately jumped to give me a seat or open a door because they remembered how hard and exhausting it is to get around like that. And those represented by the assholes you photographed.
But assholes are not unique to New York and definitely not new. If it makes you feel any better, my mother started getting labor pains on the F train coming home from work 40 years ago and no one gave her a seat either. Luckily I waited a few more hours to be born in a hospital.
I think this site is a good wake up call. I do sit in the priority seating with the intention of giving up my seat if I see someone on the train who looks like they have a disability or require the seat. That being said, it’s very possible that I could have been unaware of someone who needed one of these seats on the occasion I was sitting in it. New York is a brutal city for anyone with some kind of handicap. Providing them with a small space on the subway seems to be the least we could do.
I am just hear to fap to “ptgirl”. See, your “name” is very close to another girls “name” that I frequently fap to and you just brought back mammaries about her.
God, these people are sleeping, or almost. What do you expect? That they will magically sense the presence of someone on crutches, wake up and offer their seat? Priority seating means that able bodied people are supposed to give up these seats to a disabled person when asked, not that they are not allowed to sit there. And of course there are invisible disabilities. The people here arguing that anyone able to go down the subway stairs should be able to stand in a subway have never heard of balance problems or dislocation joints.
LOVE this site. I had a full reconstruction of my right leg after a snowboarding accident and had to be on a cane for 18 months and BELIEVE me—nobody on the subway cared whatsofrigginever. At first I was like “Be a good NYer. Just grin and bear it.” But, then I got mad. If you have never had all the structures in the middle of your leg rebuilt then F.U. if you think you have any idea how much pain I was in. Riding on the subway standing up like that is just about exactly as hard as SURFING or riding a skateboard would be. Horrible. Tears. But do people on the subway care. Not at all. I love you taking the pictures! Gallery of shame you rude mf-ers. On the other hand, I quickly developed my own strategy. I’d poke ‘em with my cane and say GET UP!
In England if people don’t get up for pregnant women and people who are disabled, they can get fined quite sizeably if they’re reported. But really, how many people are going to report them?
I am sorry, but these are the same people who would complain if someone didn’t get up for them. you can usually tell the people who have been on crutches before, because they will get up for other people who are currently on crutches.
of course these days I would expect people to get up for my mother, just like I would get up for anyone elses.
I don't take pictures of anyone if there's an open seat within sight -- except for a few of those listed under the "Hall of Shame" tag. I also don't take pictures of elderly people, visibly pregnant women, or anyone who looks like they might have a disability. Of course, it's important to keep in mind that there's no way of knowing whether someone has a disability just by looking at them. ...
is asked these people are SUPPOSED to give up the seat. butm, do you are ask for risk of boldily harm to yourself?
How the hell would you know whether or not people have a dissability.
I do.
I can hardly stand.
I present well ,try not to appear the victim.
I think you are way off track mate.
The author MAKES the disclaimer on the page that many disabilities are not visible. The negative reaction of so many “maketh me think thou doth protest TOO much” as in: guilty as charged and defensive about it. Perhaps the same folks who take the only handicapped bathroom stall because it’s so much roomier. Duh…it’s made to accommodate wheel chairs–and folks whose bladders can’t accommodate the able-bodied dawdlers who could use another stall. Then there are those who don’t even NOTICE the folks in stores on electric carts who spend much of their shopping trip trying to avoid injuring them because they are so self-involved.
Agree with Mary’s comment.
Either you are new in New York City or you dont have anything but to take pictures of people in the Subway.
No body reads those signs, they dont mean anything when there are more people standing in any NYC subway. But of course, you already would have known that if you had lived here for over 6 months.
I would NOT give my seat to a person on crutches talking my picture in a subway (I might punch him!!!) if you can take pictures on Crutches, you can STAND!!!!
people are too busy with their stupid junk to care about another person. Look at all those billboards around them telling them what to think. Do you think they really have enough brain power to make the connection that you have crutches and what they are sitting on is marked reserved. I never look down at the seat in the subway. I didn’t even know they had reserved seats. Try carrying around a double bass on a subway.
I miss NYC so much. Riding the subway was the best entertainment ever.
That’s a double edge sword. My husband is legally blind. He looks normal but his vision is beyond bad. However you’d never know by looking at him that he needs a seat close to a door to avoid stepping on, hitting or kicking people or running over kids.
Hah! I hear your pain. I am so glad I didn’t have to deal with public transit when I was on crutches for 8 weeks. I went to the grocery store a few times and people would cut me off or hit my crutches with their shopping trolleys. I guess they saw me as a possible delay of two seconds while they raced to the crisps so they had better race to cut me off rather than be delayed. I even had people crash into my cast during their enthusiastic attempts. When I used to ride the bus I would always give up my seat to old people, pregnant women, people with crutches or casts - even people with an armful of groceries or little children would appreciate being able to sit.
Sorry, but rude is assuming that you know what’s going on with other people’s health. I wouldn’t give you a seat either just because you are a negative SOB. I’ll bet you can walk without that crutch.
This is funny people - don’t take it so personally. LOL people who take this post so seriously are probably the annoying asses on the metro! hahaha
all of you inconsiderate a@%holes who known darn well the seats they are occupanying handicap seating know that they see the damn signs posted & I think they should get a ticket. being a stroke survivor with disabilities would hope that if I had to sit, rest assured I would verbally say something & raise hell if they don’t move. there’s a reason why specific seating is designated for the handicapped cuz the aholes like the folk saying they wouldn’t give up a seat for the disabled person, shame on you!
People ARE inconsiderate and careless these days, and consumed in their own self-importance. I had crutches for just 3 months and I was surprised how little people cared to put out a wee bit of extra effort to just make my life 1% easier. I had one idiot step on my foot which was broken and in a splint at the time. Like, are you kidding me? I am RIGHT here. Anyhow. Neat blog, I like the concept. My dad has mild muscular dystrophy and you can’t tell from just looking at him stand.. but I hope able bodies start getting off their lazy butts and standing instead of taking those seats.
I was raised in the south where some form of manners and civility still remains. I’ve lived in the City (81st/1st) since 06. People here are extremely rude and inconsiderate, as “MS” points out; most get used to living with so many rude people and so it becomes the norm, the culture. Everyone knows the seats are reserved for those who need it, unfortunately because people are so inconsiderate, which is why the rules must be made in the first place, these rules are not followed because no one is there making people follow them. The other people on the train are just as guilty for not pointing out this indiscretion. Isn’t that right, if harm befalls someone else but does not affect you, you don’t care, right? That’s the response I get all the time. What happens when there is no one left to defend you? What happens when no one cares? You can all go to Hell, I am going [back] to Texas.
I have a stroller with cable breaks and a cushioned seat YEAH! Seriously, if you aren’t on crutches, use a cane, stroller, assistance dog, whatever; GET OFF THE HANDICAP SEATS! JERKS!
I live outside the States.
While I was in university we studied that in the States people care less to each other in the big cities. In Europe you would find much attention to this matter and ignoting signs would cause one to pay penalties.
The research I recall from sociology classes was the case when a woman was raped and murdered and cried for help and people kept walking.No one called 911!
I guess you’ve better move to Minesota. I’ve heard it is a great place to live in.
I wish you all the best with your health.
It is a shame for your country that people care only for themselves.
June.
I love the comment about how you haven’t lived in the city long enough. So, if you live in a city long enough you are entitled to be an asshole with no manners at all?
I’d think that if you had to be crammed into that cesspool filled with people you’d try to be MORE courteous to one another instead of less.
Never trust anyone who brags about being a New Yorker. Anyone that lives in a shithole like that and is proud of it, just needs to be erased.
Hey, June, you’re an idiot. I’ve been all over Europe. Now I live in New York and, if anything, people in this city are far more considerate than anywhere else I’ve been. You should try and get your money back on that hack class you took.
Some people are just oblivious.
Sweet blog though. Haha. Got a real kick out of it.
Solana
That’s funny - I tore a ligament in my knee in December, and had to walk with a cane for weeks. Every time I got on a train or bus, someone offered me their seat, although I usually didn’t take it.
Incidentally, I never took photographs of unsuspecting commuters either.
Also, I’d like to say to Flogger that, as someone who grew up in New York, I can assure you that most of the people who “brag” about being a “New Yorker” moved here from someplace else, and are usually tremendously bigger assholes than the homegrown variety.
I find this extremely pretentious… if you want a seat, you should ask for one. By taking pictures of the people, you’re just proving that you’re a douche who cares more about making other people look bad than getting a seat. Before moving to a city in upstate NY to go to college, I took the subway every day for nearly 4 or 5 years. And let me tell you, if I’m sitting in one of those seats, I’m usually tired as hell and probably asleep, or not paying attention because I’m totally out of it. A majority of people who take the subway during peak times are like that - either they’re going to work at 7am or getting back from work. If you want them to notice, say something, or at least give some sign that you need a seat. Just standing there and taking pictures of them isn’t going to do you any good. If anything, it’ll make it less likely for them to give up their seats for you. If you’re capable of being a total ass, you’re capable of standing.
Well, it’s a shame you have to ask, but an erring-on-the-side-of-too-polite “Excuse me…” usually works. At least then you’ll know who’s a first-class ass.
I was on the train last weekend and a fellow, sitting, clipping his fingernails, didn’t even look up after one of his clippings shot up and hit me in the cheek. I just sighed and took solace that at least he wasn’t dropping trow and taking a dump.
On a more uplifting note, I also saw a little girl force her father to give up his seat to an incredibly elderly woman with a cane. The girl was like “Daaa-aad! Aren’t you gonna get up?” He rolled his eyes, but obliged.
Love this town.
The fact that people are so defensive and stubborn about a common courtesy is ridiculous. It’s not about the people who use the seats because they need them. It’s about the assholes who have no disabilities and lack concern for anyone but themselves. I mean I have a back condition and I move the moment someone who appears to struggle more than myself steps on public transportation. It’s just the right thing to do so stop being lazy bastards before karma breaks your bones and teaches you the lesson of being a decent human being.
DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER!!
while alot of the pictures posted are MOST LIKELY non handicapped persons, lets not forget those of us with INVISIBLE DISABILITIES.
i have ms. i look fine. i dont use any assitance devices. but there are times where i have such overwhelming fatigue i can barely think. there are also times my muscles are so weak i can barely walk. BUT TO SEE ME SITTING SOMEWHERE I WOULD LOOK NORMAL.
DONT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER AND ASSUME EVERYONE IS AN ASSHOLE.
i personally would give up a seat to someone who obviously needs it more than me.
but then again…. i dont use public transportation.
why dont you just ask someone to move??
I was on crutches in 2003 for about 3 weeks. People were absolutely awful to me - the first day I had them, some woman actually kicked my broken foot while I was getting a prescription filled. When I screamed, she took off running.
As the days wore on, more and more people would cut me off on the sidewalk or bump into me. I went to a baseball game and they reluctantly allowed me to use the elevator (which required walking through some fancy section of the stadium.) There were a handful of people who were actually nice to me - but it was rare.
Great idea. But having been on crutches and in a moon boot much like yours up until a few weeks ago, word of advice #1 is take the bus. If you can get down the subway stairs and stand around on the platform, you kinda can stand, but why would you want to risk getting knocked over and breaking something else?
But in my experience, the world was divided into two kinds of people — those who had been in a cast and on crutches in their lives and immediately jumped to give me a seat or open a door because they remembered how hard and exhausting it is to get around like that. And those represented by the assholes you photographed.
But assholes are not unique to New York and definitely not new. If it makes you feel any better, my mother started getting labor pains on the F train coming home from work 40 years ago and no one gave her a seat either. Luckily I waited a few more hours to be born in a hospital.
People are just A$$hole$ I have a disability and I give up my seat to people that need it. But then again PTgirl is right.
I think this site is a good wake up call. I do sit in the priority seating with the intention of giving up my seat if I see someone on the train who looks like they have a disability or require the seat. That being said, it’s very possible that I could have been unaware of someone who needed one of these seats on the occasion I was sitting in it. New York is a brutal city for anyone with some kind of handicap. Providing them with a small space on the subway seems to be the least we could do.
I am just hear to fap to “ptgirl”. See, your “name” is very close to another girls “name” that I frequently fap to and you just brought back mammaries about her.
God, these people are sleeping, or almost. What do you expect? That they will magically sense the presence of someone on crutches, wake up and offer their seat? Priority seating means that able bodied people are supposed to give up these seats to a disabled person when asked, not that they are not allowed to sit there. And of course there are invisible disabilities. The people here arguing that anyone able to go down the subway stairs should be able to stand in a subway have never heard of balance problems or dislocation joints.
LOVE this site. I had a full reconstruction of my right leg after a snowboarding accident and had to be on a cane for 18 months and BELIEVE me—nobody on the subway cared whatsofrigginever. At first I was like “Be a good NYer. Just grin and bear it.” But, then I got mad. If you have never had all the structures in the middle of your leg rebuilt then F.U. if you think you have any idea how much pain I was in. Riding on the subway standing up like that is just about exactly as hard as SURFING or riding a skateboard would be. Horrible. Tears. But do people on the subway care. Not at all. I love you taking the pictures! Gallery of shame you rude mf-ers. On the other hand, I quickly developed my own strategy. I’d poke ‘em with my cane and say GET UP!
In England if people don’t get up for pregnant women and people who are disabled, they can get fined quite sizeably if they’re reported. But really, how many people are going to report them?
I am sorry, but these are the same people who would complain if someone didn’t get up for them. you can usually tell the people who have been on crutches before, because they will get up for other people who are currently on crutches.
of course these days I would expect people to get up for my mother, just like I would get up for anyone elses.
WTF? Is the dude with the black coat pick-pocketing the dude in the green coat? Double jerk.